This is a reply to a thread on a forum that I joined for a while a few years back.
Another Viewpoint Concerning Daniel 9:27
Hi Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ, I have read all the posts on the” Daniel 9:27 is about to happen” thread and some others like it on this forum. I feel it is time to’ say my say’ on this subject. I think the very first thing to say is this. What I say I say in love and I pray Jesus Christ is glorified with my words. The Bible tells us to” reason together’ and “iron sharpens iron”, “to love the brethren(and sistren)”, “to be harmless as doves” etc.. So, what I am going to say is not meant as a rebuke to anyone personally.
Daniel 9:26-27 are 2 of the most disputed verses in Bible prophecy. That is a fact. I think I realize, at least partly, why this is so. We, as human individuals, have opinions. As a Bible- believing Christian I should back up what I say, with Scripture references to make my points. If I am posting an “opinion” about a “doctrine or in opposition to a doctrine” I put myself in the role of Bible teacher and the responsibilities that go with that position. I think that is a fair statement. If I say, “I know in my heart that this is the way it is and I am not budging”, that is dogmatic. And that is probably pride at work. I should be careful about what I say about God’s Word; there are many warnings about false teaching and its consequences. So, I don’t take it lightly when I weigh in on this subject.
Let’s first talk about the pre-trib view a little. A lot of these folks believe a third temple must be built in Jerusalem so that an antichrist (they use capital A) can come and desecrate it. I have heard that teaching all my life and believed it for quite for a while until I started really studying the Bible for myself. According to the way I interpret the Bible now, the pre-trib rapture, seven year tribulation(there is a seventieth week that will be “cut short”) doctrine is Biblically inaccurate. That thinking, and some denominations’ teaching on “eternal security, ”when put together equal “easy believism”. Many theologians and pastors are going to have their flocks’ blood on their hands. I believe that, strongly.
Let me insert the text so you can read the verses.
[Dan 9:24-27 KJV] 24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Having established that I do not agree with pre-trib theology, let me move on to my take on the verses. I do not believe verse 27 is speaking about Jesus Christ. It is talking about “prince of the people” that shall come (v26). In the KJV, which I prefer, it says “the people of the prince”, which this translation (KJV) has reversed, which is common with the KJV. I believe that this prince is the little horn of chapter 7 and 8 of Daniel and the beast of Revelation 13 (who some call the antichrist, a word used by some pre-trib money changers to sell books and movies). The word antichrist is used 4 times in the KJV and each time is in a generic sense (1 John 2:18, 2:22, 4:3, and 2 John 1:7). Hopefully by weeks end I will have a one hour long audio on YouTube (also an article on my blog, Hey Jude 15) about the “little horn”. I hope you all will listen or read. It is a very unprofessional recording, but I think I need to go ahead and post it. Maybe it will help build up the remnant’s faith in the” right-on” timing of the truth of the Holy Bible. I hope so. Back to verses 26 and 27 of Daniel 9.
OK, here is where I think some people go astray about translating these verses. I think possibly this could be a “knee jerk” reaction away from pre-trib teaching; that a new temple is going to be built in Jerusalem and, animal sacrifices are going to be restarted so that an antichrist can come into and declare himself to be God, at that time. In my opinion, that is wrong deduction. The verse does not say that, at all. What is does say is that the lawless one will “ make desolate” God’s temple and stop the praise and prayers in Jerusalem. Folks, His temple is still there, under the dome of the rock. That sacred ground, and other parts of the temple, namely the Western Wall are still very much there.
Here is why I do not think this verse is talking about Christ. Jesus himself talks about this person coming to the temple mount and causing the abomination of desolation both in Matt. 24 and Mark 13. Paul tells us about it in 2 Thess. and this event is going to “crown the little horn as the beast, the lawless one”, who’s coming is after the work of Satan. At that time God is going to tell Michael, the Jews protecting angel, who is the restrainer, to “stand up” (stop protecting Israel), Dan. 12:1) and this event will start the time of Jacob’s trouble, the great tribulation of God’s people (Jews). Jerusalem will be surrounded by Muslim armies at that time (Luke 21:20) and the little horn will come to the temple mount to “supposedly” stop the invasion of Jerusalem and propose peace in the 6th trumpet war. But instead he will stand on the temple mount at the dome of the rock and blaspheme our Holy God, Jehovah, and demand to that he and Allah be worshipped (bowed down to). He will “sic” the Muslim armies on the Jewish inhabitants of Jerusalem and 2/3 of the Jews will be wiped out (Zechariah 13). Some of the women and young people will be turned into sex slaves (Zech. 14:2). The western wall and every other visible part of the old Jewish temple will be destroyed.
Next is a very important point that you need to understand, that being; verse 27 uses these words, oblation and sacrifice. Let’s look at what these words mean. Sacrifice is zebach in the Hebrew and I say that this means the sacrifice of thanks and righteousness that observant Jews give at the Western Wall daily. Oblation (minchah) means offering or present, and I say this is the offering of prayer, praise, and thankfulness to Jehovah God. The beast of Rev. 13 will cause the “sacrifice and oblation” to cease by tearing down the Temple walls and killing the Jews who go there. All the parts of the old Temple will be gone or underground. The Holy of Holies will still be there under the dome of the rock. Read Rev. 11: 1-2 about John being instructed to measure the Temple. John was told, “do not measure the outer courts because it is given over to the Gentiles (Muslims) and they are going to walk over it for 42 months. This is going to happen fairly soon. The “little horn” will have decimated the USA, his sanctuary, and he will travel to Israel to become the beast of Revelation 13, the last king of Daniel 11, and he, along with the Muslim armies of Iran, Hezbollah, an al Quaida- Muslim brotherhood alliance, and Hamas (the armies “could” be other nations or entities), the 4 demonic angel armies that are loosed from the Euphrates River area will kill a “third part of men”. That number can be figured a bunch of ways but any way you look at it is a lot of people. I really believe we are talking “nukes “here. Isaiah 17 speaks of Damascus, Syria becoming a “ruinous heap”. I believe that a WMD will devastate that city and that will be the catalyst for the start of the 6th trumpet war of Rev. Chapter 9. We now see Russia physically involved in the Syrian conflict and they have plenty of nukes to loan. I think the bomb (possibly this could be another kind of WMD) that hits Damascus will be blamed on Israel and Iran will retaliate with nukes into Israel and Israel will hit them hard with theirs and here we go. Pardon me, that was a bit of a rabbit trail, but I hope an informative . There is very much darkness out there(the apostacy) now.
Then, I found this forum and joined. I am not trying to turn this into my own “private platform” for my personal views on Scripture. This response is just my view on the Daniel 9:27 verse of Holy Scripture. I am just a “truth seeker”, like most of you folks. Amen? I do not claim this to be 100% accurate, just serious about my calling and informed by my knowledge of the Bible. I am not predicting the future. No one can do that except God. I am trying to “wake up” the asleep and evangelize the lost. My long-time battle cry is “Rescue the perishing before it is eternally too late” (Jude 22, 23). I consider what I do Bible teaching or Bible prophecy teaching. I do not consider myself to have visions or prophetic dreams. That is not my gift, as others have. The Body of Christ has many parts (spiritual gifts). Me, I see a current event transpire in the USA or world stage and I try to fit it into Bible prophecy. The Holy Spirit gives me an idea and I search the Word for 100% (or close as I can get) confirmation. In my opinion, there is no “new” prophecy coming (I DO NOT think the sign gifts have CEASED). The Bible is clear in Revelation 22:18, 19 about adding to and taking away It’s Words. It has been there all along. It is just a matter of reaching the time of the end so we can really see the “real people involved”. Alive and mostly, MEAN!
We are there, brothers and sisters; IN THOSE TIMES” WHEN ALL THINGS WHICH ARE WRITTEN WILL BE FULLFILLED” (Luke 21:22, 32)!!
Ps—-I know that this response has been long, but I believe I need to add this. It is human nature to get invested in our own points of view. This post is not for correction of anyone. I love you with agape love. We are all trying, with God’s help and His Word, to “figure out” the puzzle that is considered “end times prophecy”. I hear pre-wrath mentioned here and I am definitely pre-wrath, but not in the Robert Van Kampen (The Sign) sense. I believe “the blessed hope”, the rapture of the saints, will occur shortly after the start of the great tribulation (Luke 21:5-36) and will involve those who have their “clean wedding clothes on and oil in their lamps (Matt.25:1-13). All spiritually unprepared Christians (yes, I do believe, born-again ones(only those are true Christians) will be left behind to face martyrdom at the hands of the Beast (Rev.7:13-17 ). They will have to refuse “the mark” and have their garments rewashed in the blood of God’s Lamb. They will confess Jesus at that time, having denied Him, by lifestyle and actions, prior to great tribulation. They believed the “once saved, always saved” easy believism teaching, that anyone who “has asked Jesus to come into their heart will be raptured off earth prior to a 7 year tribulation period ” (There is not a 7 year tribulation but a tribulation of less than 3 1/2 years). I believe that scenario is a misapplied and erroneous interpretation of the Bible. This is very sad irony and my heart is broken for them. I, sadly, think of the blood on the hands of the pastors who incur “stricter judgment “(James 3:1 and Ezek.3:17-21). The Bible says they are going to be surprised. (Matt.7:21-23). My goal for me and my family is to be taken on the “1st train out of station Earth” to the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. This occurs in heaven while all “HELL” is breaking loose on earth……….
“16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.” [Mat 10:16 KJV]